Why is abortion pro-woman? Someone answered, and I responded. I was disappointed with a lack of explanation. Choice? We choose to use contraception and have sex. Abortion. Sure! It’s a choice! So is taking drugs and drinking under 21. So is drunk driving and what clubs we go to. But 1.5million abortions have taken place in the Us… So I’m confused. What is this movement? Apparently we can have abortions. Those clinics exist. Are they in the private sector?
You know what this suddenly reminds me of? The contraception movement. That was a movement towards unplanned pregnancy too, and they believed it was pro-women too. And maybe it is. Who knows? But it didn’t decrease unplanned pregnancy. Why? Our reproductive health classes are shit. Like I want to re-iterate, it shouldn’t be an abortion movement if you wanted a PRO-WOMEN movement. Because ignorance is not really pro women, and the only way to counter that is education, not other opportunities.
Please refer to previous post if you don’t want to take this post out of context when I talk about sexual health and education.
Gonna bypass the word-vomit of the first paragraph and… uh, access to contraception doesn’t decrease unplanned pregnancy?
I mean, yeah. Abstinence-only education leads to a decreased use of contraception, but that doesn’t imply jack shit about the impact that the “contraception movement” had on unplanned pregnancies…
How about you stop telling women what’s best for them, period? Both education and the opportunity to get the medical attention they need are key here. Talking like that doesn’t really give you a right to go around telling people what’s pro-women and what isn’t.
And by the by, while the abortion issue is steeped in misogyny, it’s important to know that not only women can get pregnant and are heavily affected by this. Do some reading before you come back to this: Google is your friend.
How about you stop telling women what’s best for them, period?
Breaking: Democratic Women Boycott House Contraception Hearing After Republicans Prevent Women From Testifying
This morning, Democrats tore into House Oversight Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) for preventing women and minorities from testifying before a hearing examining the Obama administration’s new regulation requiring employers and insurers to provide contraception coverage to their employees. Republicans oppose the administration’s rule and have sponsored legislation that would allow employers to limit the availability of birth control to women.
Ranking committee member Elijah Cummings (D-MD) had asked Issa to include a female witness at the hearing, but the Chairman refused, arguing that “As the hearing is not about reproductive rights and contraception but instead about the Administration’s actions as they relate to freedom of religion and conscience, he believes that Ms. Fluke is not an appropriate witness.”
And so Cummings, along with the Democratic women on the panel, took their request to the hearing room, demanding that Issa consider the testimony of a female college student. But the California congressman insisted that the hearing should focus on the rules’ alleged infringement on “religious liberty,” not contraception coverage, and denied the request. Reps. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) and Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC) walked out of the hearing in protest of his decision, citing frustration over the fact that the first panel of witnesses consisted only of male religious leaders against the rule. Holmes Norton said she will not return, calling Issa’s chairmanship an “autocratic regime.”
See a video compilation of the exchange at the link.
I’ve bolded the part I thought needed the most attention.
You know what that statement says? That says that women shouldn’t be allowed to talk ever, the men are being important and making important decisions, so the women should shut up and just take it.
IT DOESN’T MATTER HOW MUCH THESE PEOPLE TALK ABUOT IT BEING A RELIGIOUS FREEDOM/RIGHTS MATTER, THAT’S BULLSHIT - BECAUSE GUESS THE FUCK WHAT? IT IS A CONTRACEPTIVE, REPRODUCTIVE AND SEXUAL AUTONOMY MATTER.
THE EMPLOYEES WHO HAPPEN TO HAVE WOMBS ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THIS DECISION. THE EMPLOYEES WHO HAPPEN TO BE ABLE TO GET PREGNANT WILL BE AFFECTED BY THIS.
AND LOOK WHO’S ON THIS PANEL. OLD, WHITE, CIS-MEN OF A RELIGIOUS CONSERVATIVE BENT.
TELL ME THESE OLD, WHITE, CONSERVATIVE, RELIGIOUS CIS-MEN AREN’T JUST SCARED OF WOMEN HAVING CONTROL OF THEIR OWN BODIES.
GO ON. TELL ME THAT. WITH A STRAIGHT FACE AND NO SNIGGERING.
Fuck the Republicans.
Sometimes I am so grateful to be British. I get to actually have control over my womb here.
I’d just like to state my opinion before writing this post as to not confuse people: I think that it’s fantastic that women are standing up for their rights because there’s no denying that in the past, women have been through some tough shit and to a certain extent, still are. I’d say that 90% of the feminists I’ve spoken to are lovely people who are genuinely passionate about working to achieve that paradise goal of a gender-equal society.
But there’s a dark and disgusting corner of feminism that makes my piss boil. I think it’s fair to say that we all know the type; the feminist who doesn’t want gender equality but instead wants revenge. Revenge for the oppression of the women of the past, or maybe something more personal. These “extremists” who justify their misandrist actions by saying utter bullshit such as “Women are allowed to hate men, just like how black people can hate white people”.
I have never heard so much moronic dribble in all of my life. How can you expect to get a gender equal society of you let your blind hatred for men poison your actions? Feminism is all about not seeing gender as a thing to deter, the passion of one day reaching a society in which gender has no meaning whatsoever; a place where men and women don’t exist, we just have people. The only way we can achieve this is by men and women working together as a team. Sexism is ALWAYS wrong, no matter who it’s aimed at!
I think if that post included any more straw feminism, it’d be a fire hazard.
You aren’t listening, and that’s sad.
Have a good life, kid.
thisgingersnapsback is my girlfriend, OP, and I can tell you from personal experience that she does not, in fact, hate men, she also happens love sex.
Would it be wrong of me to start an article with an “I told you so?” Probably, but I’m going to it anyhow. In numerous articles, I (and many of my esteemed colleagues) have said that when given the information and the tools to do it, teens will act responsibly when it comes to their sexual health. We now have more data to prove that because the CDC announced earlier this month that teen birth rates hit a record low in 2010. Last year, there were 34 births per 1,000 teens ages 15 to 19. This is a 9 percent decline from 2009 and marks the third year in a row that birth rates came down. (Teen pregnancy rates have not yet been released but because there was also a decline in the teen abortion rate, researcher believe that overall teen pregnancy rates went down as well.)
As the Guttmacher Institute explains this good news is almost exclusively linked to improvements in teens’ use of contraception."
You guys, this is super shocking. You mean to tell me that comprehensive education on contraceptive use and widespread availability of contraception (which are both under fire and neither are widespread enough) leads to more teens (and everyone) using contraception effectively? And contraception use leads to fewer unwanted pregnancies?
This is brand new information.
Because it’s a fetus.
A cluster of cells incapable of thinking, feeling, writing, or saying anything.
It doesn’t know who you are, it doesn’t know what it is, it doesn’t even know it exists.
It’s not writing you fucking prose from your uterus.
I’m going to write a story about a brave little red blood cell who is sad when it dies from being let out of it’s cozy vein by a paper cut!
— Elizabeth Cady-Stanton (via brittanibotulism)