atheismfuckyeah:

Further details on the Galway death.

Savita Halappanavar, who was 17 weeks pregnant, died of septicaemia a week after presenting with back pain on 21 October at University hospital in Galway, where she was found to be miscarrying.

After the 31-year-old dentist was told that she was miscarrying, her husband reportedly said that she had asked for a medical termination a number of times over a three day period, during which she was in severe pain.

But he said these requests were denied because a foetal heartbeat was still present and they were told at one point: “This is a Catholic country.”

Pro … “life”?

I think the term to use here is, “I can’t even”.

As in, I can’t even fucking wrap my head around fucking DOCTORS denying a medical procedure to someone who’s life is in danger and letting them FUCKING DIE because for some fucking reason they value this idea of protecting a non-fully formed fetus over the life of a fully autonomous, fully formed, living, breathing person.

It’s precisely shit like this that is the reason I’m so harsh of advocates of outlawing abortion and religious fundamentalists.

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eightblackguys:

This should be required to be placed on all bibles.

eightblackguys:

This should be required to be placed on all bibles.

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ragingbeard:

abaldwin360:

bacon-beer-and-boobs:

abaldwin360:

prateandtwaddle:

abaldwin360:

prateandtwaddle:

abaldwin360:

prateandtwaddle:

abaldwin360:

If you have sex with your clone is it masturbation? 

If you get a heart transplant is it cloning? 

No, but Eve was made from Adam’s rib in the creation story, she didn’t get a “rib transplant”.
Genesis 2:21-25

Eve wasn’t genetically identical to Adam, but if it must be so by virtue of a rib then a heart transplant would be like cloning.

1 - How do you know if Eve was genetically identical to Adam or not? It doesn’t say anything about that in the bible.
2 - The story says god took a rib and made Eve from it. He made an entire new person using material from the first person, it does not say he transplanted Adam’s rib into an already existing Eve.
3 - Even IF Adam and Eve were not genetically identical (which is not addressed in the creation story), all they had were sons, who did their sons have sex with to make more people? 

1. I was going by your picture bro. 
2. I didn’t say he did. I’m saying a clone is a clone only by virtue of a genetic replica, not by the source of its origin. (Making a car out of steel is not the same as cloning steel.) 
3. Where does it say that all that they had were sons? 

It never says that Adam and Even were not genetic replicas, and never says they are, so how can you make an outright statement that they weren’t you don’t know.
Have you ever cut part of a plant off and grown a new plant from it? The new plant is a clone. It sounds like in the story god did the same thing with Adam’s rib.
Second, the bible only really talks about Cain, Able and Seth, looking back I think it might have mentioned Adam had daughters somewhere, so I’ll give that one to you.
Though, I thought that incest was a sin, and these guys would still be having to get it on with their sisters to make more people.
The whole thing is steeped in lack of logic, and going back to the original picture, it you REALLY want to split hairs I don’t think Adam and Eve were ever even technically married.
The picture was a joke pointing out lack of logic in the creation story.

Adam and Eve can’t be genetically identical. One is a man while the other is a female. That in its self means that they aren’t identical.

Not identical, but the same save for one chromosome, I should have worded it better.

Doesn’t their lack of actual existence make this back and forth dialogue all the more ridiculous? lol, although I do admit that this is quite entertaining and the meme is very funny. 

Haha.
Well, there’s the whole, “It never really happened” aspect too.
I like to argue it the same way people argue plot holes in other fiction. 

ragingbeard:

abaldwin360:

bacon-beer-and-boobs:

abaldwin360:

prateandtwaddle:

abaldwin360:

prateandtwaddle:

abaldwin360:

prateandtwaddle:

abaldwin360:

If you have sex with your clone is it masturbation? 

If you get a heart transplant is it cloning? 

No, but Eve was made from Adam’s rib in the creation story, she didn’t get a “rib transplant”.

Genesis 2:21-25

Eve wasn’t genetically identical to Adam, but if it must be so by virtue of a rib then a heart transplant would be like cloning.

1 - How do you know if Eve was genetically identical to Adam or not? It doesn’t say anything about that in the bible.

2 - The story says god took a rib and made Eve from it. He made an entire new person using material from the first person, it does not say he transplanted Adam’s rib into an already existing Eve.

3 - Even IF Adam and Eve were not genetically identical (which is not addressed in the creation story), all they had were sons, who did their sons have sex with to make more people? 

1. I was going by your picture bro. 

2. I didn’t say he did. I’m saying a clone is a clone only by virtue of a genetic replica, not by the source of its origin. (Making a car out of steel is not the same as cloning steel.) 

3. Where does it say that all that they had were sons? 

It never says that Adam and Even were not genetic replicas, and never says they are, so how can you make an outright statement that they weren’t you don’t know.

Have you ever cut part of a plant off and grown a new plant from it? The new plant is a clone. It sounds like in the story god did the same thing with Adam’s rib.

Second, the bible only really talks about Cain, Able and Seth, looking back I think it might have mentioned Adam had daughters somewhere, so I’ll give that one to you.

Though, I thought that incest was a sin, and these guys would still be having to get it on with their sisters to make more people.

The whole thing is steeped in lack of logic, and going back to the original picture, it you REALLY want to split hairs I don’t think Adam and Eve were ever even technically married.

The picture was a joke pointing out lack of logic in the creation story.

Adam and Eve can’t be genetically identical. One is a man while the other is a female. That in its self means that they aren’t identical.

Not identical, but the same save for one chromosome, I should have worded it better.

Doesn’t their lack of actual existence make this back and forth dialogue all the more ridiculous? lol, although I do admit that this is quite entertaining and the meme is very funny. 

Haha.

Well, there’s the whole, “It never really happened” aspect too.

I like to argue it the same way people argue plot holes in other fiction. 

religiousragings:

kaijufenrir:

The most perfect response. Mother of god…

Beautiful response.  This is a keeper.  ~Steve

religiousragings:

kaijufenrir:

The most perfect response. Mother of god…

Beautiful response.  This is a keeper.  ~Steve

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Breaking: Democratic Women Boycott House Contraception Hearing After Republicans Prevent Women From Testifying

atheismfuckyeah:

This morning, Democrats tore into House Oversight Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) for preventing women and minorities from testifying before a hearing examining the Obama administration’s new regulation requiring employers and insurers to provide contraception coverage to their employees. Republicans oppose the administration’s rule and have sponsored legislation that would allow employers to limit the availability of birth control to women.

Ranking committee member Elijah Cummings (D-MD) had asked Issa to include a female witness at the hearing, but the Chairman refused, arguing that “As the hearing is not about reproductive rights and contraception but instead about the Administration’s actions as they relate to freedom of religion and conscience, he believes that Ms. Fluke is not an appropriate witness.”

And so Cummings, along with the Democratic women on the panel, took their request to the hearing room, demanding that Issa consider the testimony of a female college student. But the California congressman insisted that the hearing should focus on the rules’ alleged infringement on “religious liberty,” not contraception coverage, and denied the request. Reps. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) and Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC) walked out of the hearing in protest of his decision, citing frustration over the fact that the first panel of witnesses consisted only of male religious leaders against the rule. Holmes Norton said she will not return, calling Issa’s chairmanship an “autocratic regime.”

AlterNet

See a video compilation of the exchange at the link.

I’ve bolded the part I thought needed the most attention.

You know what that statement says? That says that women shouldn’t be allowed to talk ever, the men are being important and making important decisions, so the women should shut up and just take it.

IT DOESN’T MATTER HOW MUCH THESE PEOPLE TALK ABUOT IT BEING A RELIGIOUS FREEDOM/RIGHTS MATTER, THAT’S BULLSHIT - BECAUSE GUESS THE FUCK WHAT? IT IS A CONTRACEPTIVE, REPRODUCTIVE AND SEXUAL AUTONOMY MATTER.

THE EMPLOYEES WHO HAPPEN TO HAVE WOMBS ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THIS DECISION. THE EMPLOYEES WHO HAPPEN TO BE ABLE TO GET PREGNANT WILL BE AFFECTED BY THIS.

AND LOOK WHO’S ON THIS PANEL. OLD, WHITE, CIS-MEN OF A RELIGIOUS CONSERVATIVE BENT.

TELL ME THESE OLD, WHITE, CONSERVATIVE, RELIGIOUS CIS-MEN AREN’T JUST SCARED OF WOMEN HAVING CONTROL OF THEIR OWN BODIES.

GO ON. TELL ME THAT. WITH A STRAIGHT FACE AND NO SNIGGERING.

Fuck the Republicans.

Sometimes I am so grateful to be British. I get to actually have control over my womb here.

~Mooglets

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North Carolina GOP Lawmaker Calls For Bringing Back Public Hangings, Starting With Abortion Providers

nonplussedbyreligion:

atheismfuckyeah:

The last legal public hanging in America took place in 1936 in Owensboro, Kentucky. The “event” attracted 20,000 people and turned into such a sickening spectacle that many credit it with ending the practice in the U.S.

But one North Carolina Republican believes that as a country we’ve grown soft since banning public hangings and is calling for them to reinstated as a deterrent to crime. If Rep. Larry Pittman had his way, “abortionists, rapists, and kidnappers” would be first in line for the gallows:

Republican Rep. Larry Pittman, who was appointed to the District 82 House seat in October, expressed his views in an email sent Wednesday to every member of the General Assembly. […]

“We need to make the death penalty a real deterrent again by actually carrying it out. Every appeal that can be made should have to be made at one time, not in a serial manner,” Pittman wrote in the email. “If murderers (and I would include abortionists, rapists, and kidnappers, as well) are actually executed, it will at least have the deterrent effect upon them. For my money, we should go back to public hangings, which would be more of a deterrent to others, as well.”

As ThinkProgress reported, last year Republicans in South Carolina, Nebraska, and Iowa pushed legislation that would essentially legalize the murder of abortion providers. Such radical sentiments have been echoed by prominent conservatives like Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK), who said during his 2004 campaign, “I favor the death penalty for abortionists.”

ThinkProgress

Dude, because providing an abortion to someone who really needs it, is exactly the same as taking someone’s life or freedom. 

And I’m not even going to comment on the whole public corporal punishment thing.

I just hope this guy doesn’t actually get any real power.

~Mooglets

Very seldom do I read something that lives up the name of my blog.  I’m sometimes bemused, or outraged, but for this, I am truly nonplussed.  ~ Kim

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Tennessee private school bans homosexuality

atheismfuckyeah:

A Christian school in America has updated its policies to ban gays and any mention of homosexuality.

News Channel 3 of Memphis, Tennessee, reports that a letter was sent home to parents of the 300 children at Rossville Christian Academy outlining the ban.

The policy reads: “Homosexuality is forbidden in scripture (Romans 1:27, Leviticus 18:22).  A staff member or student who promotes, engages in, or identifies himself/herself with such activity through any word or action shall be in violation of this policy. 

“Should the administration determine a violation of this policy, the person involved will be subject to disciplinary action with the possibility of permanent dismissal.  Any applicant who is not in compliance with this policy will not be admitted.”

A lawyer has told the news channel he sees no legal issues within the new policy because the school is a private institution and there are no state laws protecting gays.

The school is yet to comment on its new policy.

From Pink Paper

Seriously, people. Seriously

~Mooglets

And unfortunately, that lawyer is right.

Shit like this pisses me off so much, it drives me crazy that the radical religious will try to shelter themselves completely from the outside world.

I’m guessing the clients of this “school” have parents that are woefully homophobic, then they go to school where it’s not even discussed, and end up living in this “alternate reality” that will influence them for the rest of their life.

It’s pretty sad.

She’s not “losing her faith”, she’s gaining her rationale. And I want to punch everyone hurting her for it.

thisgingersnapsback:

[Edited: Title. It fits better.]

When I first started “doubting” my religion, I recall a very heated, emotional conversation my mother and I had in the car. I was about ten or so, perhaps, and I remember her telling me, “I’m just sad I won’t see you in heaven.”

Years passed. She was convinced I was “going through a phase.” I was still made to go to church, and she was still convinced I would believe eventually. When I would get angry at a particular religion over something they had done, it would explode into a fight.

Then she started doubting. She looked into Buddhism, and avoided the term “atheist” like the plague, because of the negative connotations that people of religion are taught to associate with that word. 

Buddhism wasn’t “where it was at” for her, and she still behaved very annoyed when I would be watching some story on the news about, say, the “Noah’s Ark” theme park getting tax cuts and me getting angry about it.

But she recently came to the conclusion that she simply does not believe in a god at all. She holds to a “higher power,” as some people like or need to do, and considers it the natural order of things in the Universe—a bit hippie for my tastes, but realistic nonetheless. There is no fate, just what happens. She still didn’t understand the chip I had on my shoulder against religion—until recently.

Much, much more recently, she’s stopped being quiet about her disbelief. She’s started to get snide comments from people who used to be her friends. Even her best friend, and her best friend’s daughter. People at work “joke” about her lack of belief. Family is starting to notice, and the way she is being treated is starting to change. 

And she’s amazed. Further, she’s shocked, annoyed, angry, and above all, hurt. She is no different of a person now than she was when they thought she believed in a god, but now that she doesn’t… apparently it’s okay to treat her as less than they would a friend or family member who does.

She’s starting to understand my frustration. She listens to me now, rather than argues. I’ve been patient, and I’ve been expecting this to come for quite a while, and she’s even begun calling herself an atheist, but while I’m happy she’s starting to understand me, it hurts to watch.

She goes to Al-Anon (an organization I do not like, and am not ashamed of it) not because she drinks, or has ever had a problem with drinking, but because she lives her life like that of a lover of an alcoholic (there’s a very specific psychology behind it—dependency, people-pleasing, etc.,) and she’s reaching out to these people for help in bettering herself. But when they say the Lord’s Prayer after each meeting, although Al-Anon totes just having a “higher power,” she gets looks when she remains silent. She doesn’t stand up and protest to the prayer, she just simply remains silent, and is hated for it.

In therapy, her therapists and counsellors tell her that she NEEDS a “higher-power,” so when she explains that to her, her “higher-power” is that of the Universe (again, hippie, but hey, it works and is an interesting way to look at it!) she’s treated skeptically, and she notices it. No matter how much the people she goes to for help try and practice open-mindedness, she is suddenly treated as less, or different, or is dismissed because she “cannot be helped,” and it’s killing me.

This has been a huge rant I didn’t even intend on writing… but while my mother and I have our differences, and while I’m glad she’s coming around and realizing just how cruel religion can be, and how easily it is to develop a proverbial “chip” on one’s shoulder from it… it kills me to watch her hurt because of it. 

Re-blogging because this is such a beautiful illustration of why non-believers get so bent out of shape about believers. 

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thisgingersnapsback:

The Reason Rally: A Celebration of Secular values

What is the Reason Rally?
The Reason Rally is a movement-wide event sponsored by the country’s major secular organizations. The intent is to unify, energize, and embolden secular people nationwide, while dispelling the negative opinions held by so much of American society… and having a damn good time doing it!
It will be the largest secular event in world history. There will be music, comedy, great speakers, and lots of fun… and it’s free!

When will the Rally be held?

On March 24, 2012, from 10:00AM – 4:00PM at the National Mall, nontheists from all corners of the nation will descend on Washington, D.C. en masse to deliver the good news: “We’re huge, we’re everywhere, and we’re growing.”

Why are we doing this?

Across America, in every city, every town, and every school, secularism is on the rise. Whether people call themselves atheists, agnostics, secular Humanists, or any of the other terms used to describe their god-free lifestyle, secularism is coming out of the closet. According to the 2008 American Religious Identification Survey (PDF), the percentage of people with no religious affiliation grew in all fifty states.

The purpose of this particular rally will be to advance secularism (in the broadest sense of the word) in society.

Are we just going to use this opportunity to trash religion?

No. This will be a positive experience, focusing on all non-theists have achieved in the past several years (and beyond) and motivating those in attendance to become more active. While speakers have the right to say what they wish, the event is indeed a celebration of secular values.

  • Need a Hotel? There are great discounts to be found in the D.C. area!
  • Need Transportation? Well, if you live in Arkansas, Connecticut, Indiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, or Virginia, you might be in luck! Bus service may be available in various areas if enough people sign up to take them!
  • Who’s going to be there? Richard Dawkins, PZ Myers, Taslima Nasrin, Bad Religion, Hemant Mehta (Blogger at The Friendly Atheist) and David Silverman (President of American Atheists) just to name a few.

Reblog to spread the word about the Largest Gathering of the Secular Movement in World History.

Brittany and I will be there!

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“oppression”

“oppression”

Dear Christians,

thisgingersnapsback:

You’re not allowed to tell anyone that they’re quoting Bible Passages “out of context” simply because it does not fit with your ill-formed opinion regarding your “Holy Text.”

Sorry.

You just can’t.

Sincerely,

Other People Who Have Also Read The Bible.

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atheismfuckyeah:

Via Aisforatheist

For the record: I hate religion, but not the religious.

I take people on a person by person basis, I have friends and family that are religious, it’s the religion it’s self I don’t like… the religious people I don’t like are people I wouldn’t like anyway.

Weapons of mass destruction.

Weapons of mass destruction.

atheismfuckyeah:

As a predominantly Christian people, Westerners think they know the Bible pretty well. But not everybody realizes that many of the most iconic features of Christianity were never mentioned by the holy book or the church, but were actually pulled from the ass of some poet or artist years after God turned in his final draft of the Bible.

Things like …

I actually knew pretty much all of this stuff, but it’s an interesting read :) 

Enjoy,

~Mooglets

The list:

  • Angels (as in the kind with wings and halos)
  • The Devil Is Red and Has Horns, a Pitchfork and Goat Legs
  • The Holy Grail
  • “The” Antichrist
  • Hell: Everything Other Than the Fire